Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

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Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Lynn Taubeneck » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:50 pm

I am not a railroad man but enjoy watching all the videos and touring the USA and Europe riding the rails. Actually I am an aviation guy flying the skies from one railroad trip to another. Anyhow, here is my question. When the locomotives are hooked up in a double header or a pusher locomotive is added to the consist how does the second engineer know how much throttle to use? Can they feel the pushing or pulling? It just seems to me that unless the locomotives are completely identical one would be pushing or pulling the other along or the train could be damaged.

Thanks for the good answers.

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Re: Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Pete Dahlberg » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:14 pm

Lynn Taubeneck wrote:I am not a railroad man but enjoy watching all the videos and touring the USA and Europe riding the rails. Actually I am an aviation guy flying the skies from one railroad trip to another. Anyhow, here is my question. When the locomotives are hooked up in a double header or a pusher locomotive is added to the consist how does the second engineer know how much throttle to use? Can they feel the pushing or pulling? It just seems to me that unless the locomotives are completely identical one would be pushing or pulling the other along or the train could be damaged.

Thanks for the good answers.

Lynn Taubeneck


The answer is that it is a combination of factors. First the engineers are communicating via radio and/or whistle signals. Second, with experience, you can feel the weight of the train and how it is reacting and adjust the throttle appropriately. It's an art.
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Re: Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Lynn Taubeneck » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:45 pm

Thanks Pete. You can't be too far from me, we live in Hurst along the Trinity river.
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Re: Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Jason Rose » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:40 am

Hey, that's cool. Fellow Texans!

I live north of Houston, but this morning I'm out in your neck of the woods near Bridgeport.
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Re: Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Pete Dahlberg » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:51 am

Lynn Taubeneck wrote:Thanks Pete. You can't be too far from me, we live in Hurst along the Trinity river.

Southwest Arlington
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Re: Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Larry Sullivan » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:47 pm

Way too many dang Texans on here!!!!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Jason Rose » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:19 am

Larry Sullivan wrote:Way too many dang Texans on here!!!!! :lol: :lol:


Ya know... at one time Chama and Durango were IN Texas. Silverton almost was. Missed it by about 4 miles.
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Re: Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Lynn Taubeneck » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:47 am

I did live in Seattle at one time.
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Re: Double Header or Helper Loco in consist

Unread postby Rich Murray » Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:30 pm

Lynn Taubeneck wrote:I did live in Seattle at one time.

I never lived in Texas but I did spend a lot of nights in motels there. :lol:
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