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does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Jonathan Cordova » Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:23 am

does anyone recognize this tender
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby John Hamman » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:18 pm

Given what was said last fall and its current location, and by the looks of the lower frame and some old pictures I have come across, I am guessing the 483. But it is hard to tell since we can not see the entire profile.
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Jonathan Cordova » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:20 pm

your right john its 483 tender
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Jared Singletary » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:08 pm

Actually it's 482's tank on 483's frame.

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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby John Hamman » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:33 am

Hi Jared,
I kind of remember some kind of story behind that - could share more about how that came to be?
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Jared Singletary » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:39 am

When the D&S swapped 497 for 482 many usable parts came from 483. 482's tender shell was in less than good shape and 483's tender frame was a little bent up from a derailment with 494 in Sept. 1958 near Carbon Jct. to remedy this problem 483's tank was put on 482's frame and off to Durango they went.

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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby John Hamman » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:12 am

Jared,
Thanks for the history lesson!
But I guess this means then that the tender in the picture is in worse shape than it looks - and that is not too good.
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Jared Singletary » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:45 pm

It would probably be ok for a display with a little work. I would imagine major repairs would be needed for any possible operational restoration.

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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby John Cole » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:44 am

Even though a cosmetic job doesn't mean it's ready to run, perhaps the fact it is looking better might give the powers that be an incentive to get it running again.
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby John Hamman » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:25 am

I hope they pull it out and at least make it presentable for display.
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Sharon Evans » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:36 pm

If the Friends decide to put a tender on the cosmetically restored 483, won't this be the one.
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Pete Dahlberg » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:20 pm

Sharon Evans wrote:If the Friends decide to put a tender on the cosmetically restored 483, won't this be the one.

It would take a lot of work to make it cosmetically showable. There is a lot of rusted through plates.
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Pete Dahlberg » Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:59 pm

Pete Dahlberg wrote:
Sharon Evans wrote:If the Friends decide to put a tender on the cosmetically restored 483, won't this be the one.

It would take a lot of work to make it cosmetically showable. There is a lot of rusted through plates.

I was walking the yard this morning and ran into several of the guys working on the 483 this session. Their focus will be on getting the parts removed during the asbestos remediation back on 483. They have one boxcar of parts and still need to find a second car of parts.
Restoration of the tender will require some thought since the wood decking is rotted and the tank will need to be removed to fix the decking. Additionally,the frame is noticeably bent. As additional options, there are several tender tanks stored at the oil dock near 483.

Here are some shots I took after talking with the 483 team.
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Re: does anyone recognize this tender

Unread postby Tom Casper » Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:13 am

Would be nice if the were posted right side up! Can anyone fix?

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