10/26/17 More Yard Work

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10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Rick Calkins » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:07 am



Lots of sounds and moving locomotives. My guess is that there is an attempt to place a locomotive behind the engine house for repair.
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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Sharon Evans » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:23 am

My guess would be that the first locomotive is getting separated from its tender for the winter. Both 484 and 488 are back there and cold.
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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Rick Calkins » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:25 am



This video is to help acquaint visitors with various points of interest in the south yard. It is short, enjoy.
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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Rick Calkins » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:37 am

Jason Rose wrote:
Rick Calkins wrote:. As noted above, I have yet to find a way to bypass the confounding 10 minute camera "Pause" inserted in the BrownRice code.


That feature is there to keep costs down. If it wasn't, there are some that would never turn them off and rack up expensive bills. Every second of use by every person cost the Friends money.


Jason thanks for your reponse.

I ran a full service website to accommodate the all the schools throughout the state of New Mexico. At the time, I owned a textbook depository and we fulfilled school orders for more than 10,000 state adopted textbooks. Like you, I went offsite to have the website hosted. It was not unusual to have two million hits a year. Those hits did not all turn into orders since our contract with publishers limited our activities to the state of New Mexico. Most of these visitors came from throughout the United States. Yes, we offered full-color illustrations and description of all items sold. Each school in the state was able to create a purchase order for the materials they needed as they perused the title database.
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I understand the costs of operating a website. I paid the bills. I also understand that the three cameras at Chama stream 24/7 and that is why you chose to have them hosted by BrownRice. That turned out to be an operationally smart and financially wise choice as shown by the following illustration. It seems that a select few are able to stream and record the three cameras a full day, without experiencing a pause, and then extract the important points to to the Web Cam page for active viewing and archive purposes. I am not asking that I be afforded this same opportunity just because I am a Friend of the C&TSRR. Rather I am suggesting that you upgrade the source code provided by BRI and change the "temporary Pause" from their default of 10 minutes to a default of 30 minutes. This would lessen a convoluted viewing experience suffered by most members and guests. The few possible abusers will still be curtailed by the new pause limitation of 30 minutes. The rest of us will have a better viewing and recording experience. Semper Fi.
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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Bill Grierson » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:48 pm

Does anyone have any idea of what happened to the empty hopper and drop bottom gondola in need of repairs that left Chama late yesterday. It seemed like a really odd move. Looks like 487 is the last hot locomotive in Chama.

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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Sharon Evans » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:01 pm

My guess, based on how long the 487 was out of Chama, is they left them at Cumbres for 19 to pick up.

10-26-17 And they are still at Cumbres.jpg
Look at left edge of shot, this is probably the DBG
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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Sharon Evans » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:09 pm

Here are what still images I was able to get today.
10-26-17 487, which spent the night on the south side of the house, has come to the north side.jpg
10-26-17 487, which spent the night on the south side of the house, has come to the north side.jpg (146.86 KiB) Viewed 5191 times

After this it went back to the south side and could be seen, via its smoke plume, moving around there.
10-26-17 487 has just come into view in the south yard as it switches.jpg
10-26-17 487 has just come into view in the south yard as it switches.jpg (225.59 KiB) Viewed 5190 times

10-26-17 487 has now come back out on the north side.jpg
10-26-17 487 has now come back out on the north side.jpg (227.62 KiB) Viewed 5190 times

10-26-17 and coupled onto the 463 and is pulling it out from the house.jpg
10-26-17 and coupled onto the 463 and is pulling it out from the house.jpg (209.07 KiB) Viewed 5190 times

10-26-17 The 487 is shoving the 463 toward south yard.jpg
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10-26-17 The 487 now has 463 on the south yard lead.jpg
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10-26-17 The 487 is deep in south yard with the 463.jpg
10-26-17 The 487 is deep in south yard with the 463.jpg (229.49 KiB) Viewed 5190 times
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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Bill Grierson » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:15 pm

That looks like it alright. I'll have to keep my eye on the Cumbres cam to see when it gets moved.

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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Sharon Evans » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:31 pm

We get to see our first locomotive without tender, not saying that either of both 484 and 488 have had theirs removed and stayed on the south side of the house.
10-26-17 The 487 now comes back pulling 463 sans tender.jpg
If you look real close sighting down along the line of Friends cars and the OY you can see where the tender is parked and there may be more then one there
10-26-17 The 487 now comes back pulling 463 sans tender.jpg (223.48 KiB) Viewed 5189 times

10-26-17 and is headed to the house lead.jpg
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10-26-17 and is now shoving it toward the house.jpg
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10-26-17 and into the west stall.jpg
10-26-17 and into the west stall.jpg (229.83 KiB) Viewed 5189 times

10-26-17 That chore over, 487 is now parked in front of the east stall.jpg
10-26-17 That chore over, 487 is now parked in front of the east stall.jpg (233.53 KiB) Viewed 5189 times

10-26-17 487 has now moved back over to the west stall and is pulling 463 backs out.jpg
10-26-17 487 has now moved back over to the west stall and is pulling 463 backs out.jpg (209.58 KiB) Viewed 5180 times

10-26-17 and moves it over to the east stall.jpg
10-26-17 and moves it over to the east stall.jpg (209.4 KiB) Viewed 5180 times

10-26-17 487 is now getting its fire cleaned so maybe the day is over.jpg
10-26-17 487 is now getting its fire cleaned so maybe the day is over.jpg (210.44 KiB) Viewed 5180 times

Once the fire was cleaned, the 487 moved inside the west stall.
10-26-17 That is either 484 or 488 sitting on the south side of the house sans tender.jpg
10-26-17 That is either 484 or 488 sitting on the south side of the house sans tender.jpg (164.79 KiB) Viewed 5175 times



10-26-17 The 15 is now starting up, do something or just checking.jpg
10-26-17 The 15 is now starting up, do something or just checking.jpg (204.82 KiB) Viewed 5175 times
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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Jason Rose » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:32 pm

Rick Calkins wrote:I understand the costs of operating a website. I paid the bills. I also understand that the three cameras at Chama stream 24/7 and that is why you chose to have them hosted by BrownRice. That turned out to be an operationally smart and financially wise choice as shown by the following illustration. It seems that a select few are able to stream and record the three cameras a full day, without experiencing a pause, and then extract the important points to to the Web Cam page for active viewing and archive purposes. I am not asking that I be afforded this same opportunity just because I am a Friend of the C&TSRR. Rather I am suggesting that you upgrade the source code provided by BRI and change the "temporary Pause" from their default of 10 minutes to a default of 30 minutes. This would lessen a convoluted viewing experience suffered by most members and guests. The few possible abusers will still be curtailed by the new pause limitation of 30 minutes. The rest of us will have a better viewing and recording experience. Semper Fi.
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Rick, yes there is a private page set up for Larry and Sharon to record. The work they do (and have done) more than earns them that special privilege. But, more than that, it's mostly about simplifying their lives so they aren't tied to the computer all day. And, this isn't to impugn your efforts or those of others that regularly post captures. Your efforts further enhance the forum are greatly appreciated. Larry started this project a few years ago because he had the time and technical know-how to do it. When he no longer had the time, he recruited Sharon. There really isn't a need to have more people involved at this point. Should that change, you are definitely on my short list to contact.

The 10-minute timeout is fair (in my opinion) and this was agreed upon by a committee of team members and FCTS leadership. 30 minutes would surely make things a bit easier for some people, but again, time is money. Many others would watch an arrival or departure and not stop the stream or close their browser. That could potentially double or triple our cost. For what it's worth, I always use the public page with the timeout. I afford myself no special privileges. The one exception is occasional high resolution photos (not video) taken directly from the cameras.

If enough people talk to Tim Tennant and request a way to subscribe to the cameras (with an annual fee), we can provide unlimited access. Short of that, it's just not affordable. Every penny we save goes towards preserving the railroad... and that's why we're here.

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Re: 10/26/17 More Yard Work

Unread postby Sharon Evans » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:49 pm

15 is out and moving not sure where its going.
10-26-17 The 15 is moving around for the first time since last spring.jpg
10-26-17 The 15 is moving around for the first time since last spring.jpg (178.28 KiB) Viewed 5174 times

10-26-17 The 15 is moving toward south yard.jpg
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10-26-17 The 15 stopped opposite the depot.jpg
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10-26-17 Now heading out toward the north end of the yard.jpg
10-26-17 Now heading out toward the north end of the yard.jpg (188.17 KiB) Viewed 5173 times

10-26-17 Moving by the tipple as the sun reflects off the reflective, yellow markings.jpg
10-26-17 Moving by the tipple as the sun reflects off the reflective, yellow markings.jpg (172.06 KiB) Viewed 5173 times

10-26-17 Now coming back down the house lead.jpg
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10-26-17 The 15 is headed into the west stall lead.jpg
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10-26-17 and seems to have parked there.jpg
10-26-17 and seems to have parked there.jpg (160.65 KiB) Viewed 5171 times


Now, tomorrow should be an off day for the crews so do not expect any action until Monday.
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